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Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Doug

Doug — Thu, 31 May 2012 04:39:33 +0000

That’s an interesting thought Cal. To believe what you do would mean that the Book of Mormon is indeed true, as that came early-is that what you believe? I totally agree with you about disagreeing agreeably!

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Cal

Cal — Thu, 31 May 2012 00:55:09 +0000

Thanks for the report, Doug.

You mentioned that the LDS started out with doctrines more similar to other churches. That is one reason I believe Joseph started as a prophetically gifted spiritual man, then later on he backslid—at least to some extent. I guess that puts me in the middle of you and the other boys here.

It’s nice we can all disagree agreeably. The grace of our Lord is at work among us, no doubt.

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Cal

Cal — Thu, 31 May 2012 00:44:30 +0000

Jettboy, you said, “I don’t think there is any reason for me to question his prophetic work.”

I won’t touch that now!

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Cal

Cal — Thu, 31 May 2012 00:42:17 +0000

graceforgrace, I do remember quite a bit about your history. (I still have your testimony on my website. [At this point, you're the only Mormon on my site. {I'll add others sometime (Enough rabbit trailing already)}]). As I recall, you were bitter toward the LDS for a time. I wonder if you ever visited a charismatic church.

I can’t remember much of what I had read about entering into polygamy in order to get into the highest degree of the highest kingdom. I had forgotten whether that was an evangelical exaggeration or fact. That’s another heavy subject. Of course I know that no one in the LDS is allowed to practice polygamy during this life. However, do sealing ceremonies for a second wife take place during this life? (I’m off topic.)

In any case, I respect you for keeping yourself free to disagree.

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Doug

Doug — Wed, 30 May 2012 12:21:58 +0000

I’m making my way through ‘Rough Stone Rolling’ which only confirms my prior thoughts about Joseph Smith-he is a fascinating man. While I do not believe him to be a prophet of God-I find him very likable. At the same time he is not an easy man to grasp-I am unable to wrap my brain around him.. What is striking about the church, and this is mentioned in the book, is how similar in doctrine it was to the other churches around it when it was founded. The unique doctrines and beliefs that mark the LDS church come later in stages and some/much of it from BY. Having read portions of the BOM it seems to present God in a much more traditional way then the later revelations did. It is also striking that almost from the very beginning Joseph Smith had a powerful influence upon people-and they either loved him or wanted to harm him.

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by Jettboy

Jettboy — Tue, 29 May 2012 23:29:09 +0000

Born into a Mormon family and raised in Southeast Idaho (I don’t like specifics). Do I agree with everything Joseph Smith taught? I don’t have any major disagreements, but its like asking if I agree with everything in the encyclopedia of 30 years ago. Lots of details would be arguable. I gave an example above about Joseph Smith’s beliefs on the origins of Masonry. To paraphrase him, he isn’t perfect, but I don’t think there is any reason for me to question his prophetic work.

Comment on Yoda Patterned after Spencer W Kimball: Fact or Fiction? by teotwawkisos

teotwawkisos — Tue, 29 May 2012 21:24:26 +0000

who’s fighting? And WW II just serves as a clear example of how relative demand for ‘proof’ are. I can’t speak for anyone else but as far as i’m concerned, it’s just a friendly harmless debate. No one was making more of it than that so far. Do i have to justify having an opinion and voicing it best as i can now? NOW it’s starting to sound like fighting…

Comment on Yoda Patterned after Spencer W Kimball: Fact or Fiction? by graceforgrace

graceforgrace — Tue, 29 May 2012 19:04:18 +0000

Karenwindness,

Amen to all you said!

Comment on Yoda Patterned after Spencer W Kimball: Fact or Fiction? by karenwindness

karenwindness — Tue, 29 May 2012 18:06:47 +0000

I’m with Steve on this. Why fight about it? It’s not like it’s doctrine or anything. And it really rubs me the wrong way when Hitler comparisons are made. Not the same thing at all.

Comment on Inside a Mormon Temple Wedding by graceforgrace

graceforgrace — Tue, 29 May 2012 14:01:51 +0000

Hey Jettboy,

Quick question for you since Cal brought it up….I’m from Idaho as well (Burley). Where are you from?

Cal, just in case you’re curious…I was raised by Mormon parents but my mom left when I was young and we attended various Christian denominations such as Presbyterian, Baptist, Lutheran. After I returned to Mormonism, she has bounced around numerous times and is now attending an Anglican church.

I agree with most of what Joseph Smith taught, but not all. Polygamy is one area that I don’t agree with…especially that one must enter into polygamy in order to be saved or exhaulted.