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		<title>Comment on If the Devil Believes in Jesus why isn&#8217;t he Saved? by Doc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if anyone will even come on here and read my post it&#039;s so far from when this was posted, but I read all these things from my brother posting on here to Raymund posting about one true word. I think it is good to understand that these are all opinions and they are based off of feelings, findings through readings, possible upbringings or traditions and the main thing to focus on and ask yourself is... Do I beleive in Christ? Is there really a Christ or not? If there is a Christ and our hearts are turned to him and our minds are pacified in him, we will act accordingly. Hence, by our works we shall be known, as was Christ. If we beleive in Christ then any sin gets caught up in the atonement. If someone tries to live after the Christ who walked with the apostles and truly strives to be like him, grace will cover that part of him that wasn&#039;t perfect in this world. If there was a portion of beleif that wasn&#039;t perfect in a man, who is to say it won&#039;t be considered a sin and caught up in the atonement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone will even come on here and read my post it&#8217;s so far from when this was posted, but I read all these things from my brother posting on here to Raymund posting about one true word. I think it is good to understand that these are all opinions and they are based off of feelings, findings through readings, possible upbringings or traditions and the main thing to focus on and ask yourself is&#8230; Do I beleive in Christ? Is there really a Christ or not? If there is a Christ and our hearts are turned to him and our minds are pacified in him, we will act accordingly. Hence, by our works we shall be known, as was Christ. If we beleive in Christ then any sin gets caught up in the atonement. If someone tries to live after the Christ who walked with the apostles and truly strives to be like him, grace will cover that part of him that wasn&#8217;t perfect in this world. If there was a portion of beleif that wasn&#8217;t perfect in a man, who is to say it won&#8217;t be considered a sin and caught up in the atonement?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Jesus is the Most Accurate Portrait? by graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2011/05/19/which-jesus-is-the-most-accurate-portrait/#comment-5289</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jason,

That is an amazing thing that you had a vision of Jesus!  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>That is an amazing thing that you had a vision of Jesus!  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/01/27/mitt-romney-isnt-homophobic-enough/#comment-5286</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willworkforfoodgirl,

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights.  Are you referring to the article mentioned about spreading hate around or some other comments posted here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willworkforfoodgirl,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights.  Are you referring to the article mentioned about spreading hate around or some other comments posted here?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by willworkforfoodgirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judge not lest ye be judged. It&#039;s a sin to spread so much hate around and loathe your fellow man. It&#039;s honestly a sad thing to come across this morning. This kind of rhetoric gives Christians a bad name. Look within and see your own sins. Once you can forgive yourself, maybe you can begin to see the world in the way that Jesus did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge not lest ye be judged. It&#8217;s a sin to spread so much hate around and loathe your fellow man. It&#8217;s honestly a sad thing to come across this morning. This kind of rhetoric gives Christians a bad name. Look within and see your own sins. Once you can forgive yourself, maybe you can begin to see the world in the way that Jesus did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mormons Earning Salvation and Becoming Gods by JW King</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am Messianic Hebrew, but I am very eclectic in my beliefs. I seek eternal truths wherever they may be found or I am lead. I select what is good from all true religions (faiths) that once were established by deity (the living G_d).

Your assumption: &quot;My point is simple. Jesus came to this earth as a God and took on a mortal body as 1/2 God, 1/2 human. I’m all human as is everyone else who has ever lived. We will never be equal to that.&quot;

I say and declare unto you, that that is only true of everyone here and in this world! A few men (and I mean few) in the worlds to come will do exactly that, everything that Yeshua HaMashiach did in this world. They will make the eternal sacrifice, receiving the markings of a G_d in their hands and in their feet, and in their (right) side, and in their foreskin (eight markings). They will pay the eternal price of being a G_d as has every G_d before them. For the Son(s) do nothing but that which they have seen their Father Do! And what is that, to be the Anointed One, to be born again of women, to come down and save the world from sin by living a perfect life, and paying the Blood Atonement required by the shedding of every drop of blood in their translated body(ies) and to then die and lay that body down. For through this they become joint heir(s) with the Father and all His Father has and all the Fathers before Him.

This was taught in your Temples, this is the Mystery of G_dliness... how to become a G_d. Joseph Smith knew this and revealed it unto the Gentiles, of whom you are numbered among. And now if you can not understand my words, it is because you do not walk in the light, for if you did, then you would understand my words and know that I speak the truth. For I have declare them... these truths plainly and have not hidden them in allegory. The names and the understandings of them that I spoke of above, was talked about by Heber C. Kimball, in his journals. This is the legacy once given to the LDS that has been forgotten or even apostatized from by the LDS. You must just believe as many of those who are descendents from such great men now believe.. that is that, &#039;As man is G_d once was, and as G_d is, man may become! This must only be a nice quaint couplet. They are just a pair of (two) lines of meter in poetry. Not the truth or eternal in nature.

And if this be so, I pity you with all the empathy, sympathy and sorrow that a mortal man can muster, for something that is that infinity beautiful, and you cannot even see or conceive of, you will hence never attain to, if you continue upon that path you are on.

Shalom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Messianic Hebrew, but I am very eclectic in my beliefs. I seek eternal truths wherever they may be found or I am lead. I select what is good from all true religions (faiths) that once were established by deity (the living G_d).</p>
<p>Your assumption: &#8220;My point is simple. Jesus came to this earth as a God and took on a mortal body as 1/2 God, 1/2 human. I’m all human as is everyone else who has ever lived. We will never be equal to that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I say and declare unto you, that that is only true of everyone here and in this world! A few men (and I mean few) in the worlds to come will do exactly that, everything that Yeshua HaMashiach did in this world. They will make the eternal sacrifice, receiving the markings of a G_d in their hands and in their feet, and in their (right) side, and in their foreskin (eight markings). They will pay the eternal price of being a G_d as has every G_d before them. For the Son(s) do nothing but that which they have seen their Father Do! And what is that, to be the Anointed One, to be born again of women, to come down and save the world from sin by living a perfect life, and paying the Blood Atonement required by the shedding of every drop of blood in their translated body(ies) and to then die and lay that body down. For through this they become joint heir(s) with the Father and all His Father has and all the Fathers before Him.</p>
<p>This was taught in your Temples, this is the Mystery of G_dliness&#8230; how to become a G_d. Joseph Smith knew this and revealed it unto the Gentiles, of whom you are numbered among. And now if you can not understand my words, it is because you do not walk in the light, for if you did, then you would understand my words and know that I speak the truth. For I have declare them&#8230; these truths plainly and have not hidden them in allegory. The names and the understandings of them that I spoke of above, was talked about by Heber C. Kimball, in his journals. This is the legacy once given to the LDS that has been forgotten or even apostatized from by the LDS. You must just believe as many of those who are descendents from such great men now believe.. that is that, &#8216;As man is G_d once was, and as G_d is, man may become! This must only be a nice quaint couplet. They are just a pair of (two) lines of meter in poetry. Not the truth or eternal in nature.</p>
<p>And if this be so, I pity you with all the empathy, sympathy and sorrow that a mortal man can muster, for something that is that infinity beautiful, and you cannot even see or conceive of, you will hence never attain to, if you continue upon that path you are on.</p>
<p>Shalom</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/01/27/mitt-romney-isnt-homophobic-enough/#comment-5257</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jettboy,

You are right in that Romney didn&#039;t sign a law that promoted same-sex marriage or abortion.  What he did was leave things up to the courts and the coursts of Mass. ruled in favor of abortion, etc.

When abortion bills came onto Romney&#039;s desk, he vetoed them.  Those who say he was a very liberal governor are those who are trying to attack him and paint the picture that he&#039;s not that conservative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jettboy,</p>
<p>You are right in that Romney didn&#8217;t sign a law that promoted same-sex marriage or abortion.  What he did was leave things up to the courts and the coursts of Mass. ruled in favor of abortion, etc.</p>
<p>When abortion bills came onto Romney&#8217;s desk, he vetoed them.  Those who say he was a very liberal governor are those who are trying to attack him and paint the picture that he&#8217;s not that conservative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/01/27/mitt-romney-isnt-homophobic-enough/#comment-5256</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ezra,

Thanks for taking the time to leave a few comments and even round one up from a friend.

I completely agree with what you said about the ranking of sins.  I think that Mormons do the same thing and I disagree with those who think there are levels of sin.  Sin is sin.

Therefore, my point is that alienating someone or a group of people and calling a certain group names like &quot;homos&quot; or stating one should be &quot;homophobic&quot; is a sin that we can lump into the category of judgement.

(I called the guy a &quot;wing-nut&quot; so therefore I should be lumped into those who judge others as well!)

Therefore, we all should take a step back and realize we all have different life experiences and struggles with sin and therefore shouldn&#039;t judge others and let God be the judge, which is the conclusion it appears you came to after talking with some people.  Also, when we commit sin in all the various forms, pray for forgiveness and thank the Good Lord for the Atonement!

We can disagree with people without judging them or condeming them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ezra,</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to leave a few comments and even round one up from a friend.</p>
<p>I completely agree with what you said about the ranking of sins.  I think that Mormons do the same thing and I disagree with those who think there are levels of sin.  Sin is sin.</p>
<p>Therefore, my point is that alienating someone or a group of people and calling a certain group names like &#8220;homos&#8221; or stating one should be &#8220;homophobic&#8221; is a sin that we can lump into the category of judgement.</p>
<p>(I called the guy a &#8220;wing-nut&#8221; so therefore I should be lumped into those who judge others as well!)</p>
<p>Therefore, we all should take a step back and realize we all have different life experiences and struggles with sin and therefore shouldn&#8217;t judge others and let God be the judge, which is the conclusion it appears you came to after talking with some people.  Also, when we commit sin in all the various forms, pray for forgiveness and thank the Good Lord for the Atonement!</p>
<p>We can disagree with people without judging them or condeming them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by Jettboy</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/01/27/mitt-romney-isnt-homophobic-enough/#comment-5252</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ezra, I think you are over-reading what Graceforgrace is saying. In fact, I think he is actually agreeing with you. If its over the top and one-dimensional to call someone &quot;homophobic,&quot; then its just the same for the term &quot;homophilia,&quot; and very bad form to call any religion a &quot;cult&quot; no matter how much you disagree with them. 

Personally, however, I disagree with Graceforgrace that homosexuals are struggling with anything other than wanting to be popular and rebellious. On the other hand, I don&#039;t believe Romney is pro-homosexual just because he didn&#039;t go against the U.S. Constitution when the courts in his state made a decision. From what I understand he didn&#039;t sign anything into law that was pro or anti homosexual, but the issue came up during his administration and was forced on the citizens, Romney included.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezra, I think you are over-reading what Graceforgrace is saying. In fact, I think he is actually agreeing with you. If its over the top and one-dimensional to call someone &#8220;homophobic,&#8221; then its just the same for the term &#8220;homophilia,&#8221; and very bad form to call any religion a &#8220;cult&#8221; no matter how much you disagree with them. </p>
<p>Personally, however, I disagree with Graceforgrace that homosexuals are struggling with anything other than wanting to be popular and rebellious. On the other hand, I don&#8217;t believe Romney is pro-homosexual just because he didn&#8217;t go against the U.S. Constitution when the courts in his state made a decision. From what I understand he didn&#8217;t sign anything into law that was pro or anti homosexual, but the issue came up during his administration and was forced on the citizens, Romney included.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by ezra</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the Kingdom of the Left must deliver justice.&quot; 

&quot;Kingdom of the Left&quot; is a theological term for &quot;any secular government,&quot; just as &quot;Kingdom of the Right&quot; refers to God&#039;s government through the Church. It is a long-held position that the kingdom of the right must not unduly interfere with the kingdom of the left--and visa versa--but help to uphold and respect it. Each has its own God-given responsibilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the Kingdom of the Left must deliver justice.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Kingdom of the Left&#8221; is a theological term for &#8220;any secular government,&#8221; just as &#8220;Kingdom of the Right&#8221; refers to God&#8217;s government through the Church. It is a long-held position that the kingdom of the right must not unduly interfere with the kingdom of the left&#8211;and visa versa&#8211;but help to uphold and respect it. Each has its own God-given responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; Enough by ezra</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to have killed the mood. I bounced my thoughts off a brother. His response was more measured and professional. My friend wrote:

I&#039;d like to make two points from my perspective:

1. the nature of sin. I think that there are those who hold to a position on sin that does not reflect the true nature of our rebellious spirit. They are then able to rank-order sins and to use that rank-ordering to condemn someone as falling short of a minimal Christian position. The nature of sin and of our will in sin is such that the scale is so huge that we can never actually to the bottom-most marking let alone achieve the vison to be able to rank-order. Those pastors (whom you reference) fall into that category of failing to understand that Jesus came for the fallen (everyone) and that Mitt is fallen. The question for Christians in the next election is whether or not he can deliver justice. The ministry to the homosexual community is a large on at our parish since we live in a district of homosexuals (the gay rights parade goes past the church every year - shudder).

2. the nature of President Obama. In his years of office, he had an ironclad majority in the Congress to pass a budget for over two years. Now, as a result of his failure to lead, DoD funds are being sequestered and many people will soon be cashiered from the army. It is vital to the nation&#039;s survival to stop this horrendous inability to deliver justice.

Hence, I could vote for Romney because I see a world of lost sinners for whom the Kingdom of the Left must deliver justice. I believe that he could do much better than President Obama.

Romney is not a great choice but the Republican alternatives have so much media hostility that they will be bled to death before the election.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to have killed the mood. I bounced my thoughts off a brother. His response was more measured and professional. My friend wrote:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to make two points from my perspective:</p>
<p>1. the nature of sin. I think that there are those who hold to a position on sin that does not reflect the true nature of our rebellious spirit. They are then able to rank-order sins and to use that rank-ordering to condemn someone as falling short of a minimal Christian position. The nature of sin and of our will in sin is such that the scale is so huge that we can never actually to the bottom-most marking let alone achieve the vison to be able to rank-order. Those pastors (whom you reference) fall into that category of failing to understand that Jesus came for the fallen (everyone) and that Mitt is fallen. The question for Christians in the next election is whether or not he can deliver justice. The ministry to the homosexual community is a large on at our parish since we live in a district of homosexuals (the gay rights parade goes past the church every year &#8211; shudder).</p>
<p>2. the nature of President Obama. In his years of office, he had an ironclad majority in the Congress to pass a budget for over two years. Now, as a result of his failure to lead, DoD funds are being sequestered and many people will soon be cashiered from the army. It is vital to the nation&#8217;s survival to stop this horrendous inability to deliver justice.</p>
<p>Hence, I could vote for Romney because I see a world of lost sinners for whom the Kingdom of the Left must deliver justice. I believe that he could do much better than President Obama.</p>
<p>Romney is not a great choice but the Republican alternatives have so much media hostility that they will be bled to death before the election.</p>
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