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	<title>Comments on: Hitting the clubs with friends while married (without your spouse)</title>
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		<title>By: graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graceforgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good job Wonderdog!

It can be hard to stick to your guns, but great job doing that.  I think it&#039;s sort of crazy how people try to force you into things like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Wonderdog!</p>
<p>It can be hard to stick to your guns, but great job doing that.  I think it&#8217;s sort of crazy how people try to force you into things like that.</p>
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		<title>By: wonderdog</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wonderdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was on a business trip with 4 other coworkers. They announcecd that they were going to a strip club and that I had to go along. We only had one car so they thought that I was trapped. I announced that I could walk back to the hotel from anywhere in Houston. They dropped me at the hotel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on a business trip with 4 other coworkers. They announcecd that they were going to a strip club and that I had to go along. We only had one car so they thought that I was trapped. I announced that I could walk back to the hotel from anywhere in Houston. They dropped me at the hotel.</p>
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		<title>By: graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graceforgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Denise,

I agree with you.  If I&#039;m at a club with or without my wife, chances are there will be ladies all around with skimpy clothes.  Why would I put myself in that situation if I&#039;m doing all I can to focus all my love towards my wife?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denise,</p>
<p>I agree with you.  If I&#8217;m at a club with or without my wife, chances are there will be ladies all around with skimpy clothes.  Why would I put myself in that situation if I&#8217;m doing all I can to focus all my love towards my wife?</p>
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		<title>By: graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graceforgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Cherie,

You bring up some interesting points.  

I personally can&#039;t imagine being fine with my wife going dancing and flirting with another dude.  I hope that my actions as a husband and a father and love that I show her help her feel confident in our relationship and not to have to artificially go and find it.

I agree with you that it is up to the couple to decide what they feel comfortable with. Especially if they hit the clubs together.  I wouldn&#039;t personally go to a club even with my wife just because of all the other stuff surrounding the scene, but if a couple has agreed that they are cool with that, then it&#039;s all good for them.

Also, you bring up some good insight on life outside the Mormon culture.  In the church we tend to think of people &quot;outside&quot; or &quot;inside&quot; the church (as I indicated in my post), but in truth people vary in what they prefer to do whether they are inside or outside a cultural or religious group.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cherie,</p>
<p>You bring up some interesting points.  </p>
<p>I personally can&#8217;t imagine being fine with my wife going dancing and flirting with another dude.  I hope that my actions as a husband and a father and love that I show her help her feel confident in our relationship and not to have to artificially go and find it.</p>
<p>I agree with you that it is up to the couple to decide what they feel comfortable with. Especially if they hit the clubs together.  I wouldn&#8217;t personally go to a club even with my wife just because of all the other stuff surrounding the scene, but if a couple has agreed that they are cool with that, then it&#8217;s all good for them.</p>
<p>Also, you bring up some good insight on life outside the Mormon culture.  In the church we tend to think of people &#8220;outside&#8221; or &#8220;inside&#8221; the church (as I indicated in my post), but in truth people vary in what they prefer to do whether they are inside or outside a cultural or religious group.</p>
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		<title>By: graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graceforgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Doug,

Thanks.  I have a great wife and kids so it makes it easy.  As I think about where married people could be tempted to do that is if they&#039;re having marital problems or something like that.  That&#039;s when the old devil steps in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Doug,</p>
<p>Thanks.  I have a great wife and kids so it makes it easy.  As I think about where married people could be tempted to do that is if they&#8217;re having marital problems or something like that.  That&#8217;s when the old devil steps in.</p>
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		<title>By: graceforgrace</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graceforgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ezra,

I don&#039;t mean to make it sound I stayed in the room all night....I went to the bar/restaurant with them and didn&#039;t drink.  I played games (pool, shuffleboard, etc.) and all that while they drank.  I&#039;m totally cool with people drinking.  Just because I don&#039;t drink I don&#039;t expect them not to.

Where I find it interesting is when the married people hit the clubs flirting with other people....that&#039;s where it definitely headed in the wrong direction, in my opinion.  Kicking it with friends in the bar is fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ezra,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to make it sound I stayed in the room all night&#8230;.I went to the bar/restaurant with them and didn&#8217;t drink.  I played games (pool, shuffleboard, etc.) and all that while they drank.  I&#8217;m totally cool with people drinking.  Just because I don&#8217;t drink I don&#8217;t expect them not to.</p>
<p>Where I find it interesting is when the married people hit the clubs flirting with other people&#8230;.that&#8217;s where it definitely headed in the wrong direction, in my opinion.  Kicking it with friends in the bar is fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2012/07/20/hitting-the-clubs-with-friends-while-married-without-your-spouse/#comment-6262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you were a great role model for your co-workers. Over the years the few times I caved in and went along with the crowd-I knew it was a mistake. The time spent contacting your family was time well spent! God bless!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you were a great role model for your co-workers. Over the years the few times I caved in and went along with the crowd-I knew it was a mistake. The time spent contacting your family was time well spent! God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Ezra made a valid point when he said that nursing a milkshake in the bar might keep someone from roaming the internet or TV where greater temptations may lie.

I didn&#039;t get the impression at all, however, that GraceforGrace thinks spending time with co-workers, in itself, is always evil. I agree with Grace that going out to the bar/dance club scantily clad—even if you&#039;re not married—and then coming back the next day bragging on the people who were hitting on you—that does not sound like godliness.

I bet your wife is proud of you, GraceforGrace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Ezra made a valid point when he said that nursing a milkshake in the bar might keep someone from roaming the internet or TV where greater temptations may lie.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get the impression at all, however, that GraceforGrace thinks spending time with co-workers, in itself, is always evil. I agree with Grace that going out to the bar/dance club scantily clad—even if you&#8217;re not married—and then coming back the next day bragging on the people who were hitting on you—that does not sound like godliness.</p>
<p>I bet your wife is proud of you, GraceforGrace.</p>
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		<title>By: ezra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ama, your poll is misleading. You make it sound like spending time with co - workers is evil and that hunkering up in the room is godly. The man who is with his friends doesn&#039;t have to be drinking or dancing. In fact, his being in the bar nursing a milkshake might be keeping him from roaming the internet or TV where greater temptations may lie. His being with friends might turn them from unwholesome activity or talk. Granted, I would rather turn in than stay out late, and I clicked in on number one before I realized my error]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ama, your poll is misleading. You make it sound like spending time with co &#8211; workers is evil and that hunkering up in the room is godly. The man who is with his friends doesn&#8217;t have to be drinking or dancing. In fact, his being in the bar nursing a milkshake might be keeping him from roaming the internet or TV where greater temptations may lie. His being with friends might turn them from unwholesome activity or talk. Granted, I would rather turn in than stay out late, and I clicked in on number one before I realized my error</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why put yourself in a position that you might be tempted?  I would never do that to my husband and I would be devastated if I found out that he had gone to a place like that without me.  I think there is great wisdom in avoiding the appearance of evil because if you don&#039;t look like you are doing something wrong, you probably aren&#039;t!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why put yourself in a position that you might be tempted?  I would never do that to my husband and I would be devastated if I found out that he had gone to a place like that without me.  I think there is great wisdom in avoiding the appearance of evil because if you don&#8217;t look like you are doing something wrong, you probably aren&#8217;t!</p>
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