Comments on: Can you be Gay and Truly Believe the Bible?

By: e

Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:33:21 +0000

If, as a society, we pressed as hard upon idolatry, adultery, theft etc. as we do upon homosexuality – as God does, we’d all be quaking in our boots…

We used to do this. People would be put to death for certain things.

By: John Berry

John Berry — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:55:15 +0000

God creates man he creates them male&female&commands them 2 have children!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel if god wanted either man with man&women with women i would not be alive. Why was adam&eve in the bible if god believed that men&men together or women&women!!!! I dont believe he wants that otherwise i would not be alive!!!!

By: Kyle

Kyle — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:34:20 +0000

Yes you can. Just like all the divorced and remarried people can believe in it. It is all about how you want to read it. Read it one way and divorce, to have sex before marriage, is all a sin, loving another mans wife even after divorce is a sin. It all about what the church wants to follow. Do they lose money by saying divorce and re marriage is wrong, or do they say No you are reading it wrong or ignore that section is does not apply in this and age. Just like the section on owning slaves, the bible states it’s ok, but we know in this day and age it is not. It is all based on how you want to read into it. It’s all based on what the lion share of the people want. It is never going to be by the book. Everyone every day sins. No one is without sin. The churches are not hard up and looking for more money. When they do get hard up being gay will be ok, they will welcome them in just for the money to keep there houses running. One does not have to go to church to speak or hear gods words. It called the bible. Read it some time. It might just shock you when you don’t have the church telling you what it really says.

By: mike lipko

mike lipko — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:36:28 +0000

NM you are dead wrong. you wrote “If, as a society, we pressed as hard upon idolatry, adultery, theft etc. as we do upon homosexuality – as God does, we’d all be quaking in our boots…” its clear to me that you justify a homosexuals actions because of our own sins/”if you live in a glass house you shouldnt throw stones” so to speak. thats bull. no we arent to hang homos and stone prostitutes but what is sin , is sin. and it should be laid out on the table;and there should be a longing desire on behalf of the law breaker to repent and turn from their wicked ways. and as far as one being gay and believing the bible thats bull too, one cannot truly believe Gods laws and think within a reasoning mind that Gods cool with a man doin’ another guy in the oneway street. gods not cool with that and if any of us in this chat box had any sense at all we would clearly see that all the commandments are for our own good, they’re meant to protect humans ! so, basically God is saying hey protect yourself and others , love yourself (in his way/not mans perverted way) and others and you are serving me and doing my will…..wow what a great deal we got and we have the opportunity to be called his son or daughter because of it and he’ll even reward us time and time again plentiously for it…..we are truly ungrateful—-so start by being grateful, and looking to Gods superior and mighty laws and humble yourself. Amen

By: mike lipko

mike lipko — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:13:13 +0000

we make reference to the bible as the “gospel truth”; however what we fail many times to mention is that the bible has a highlighter so to speak, a way of truly being aware to its purposeful and enlightening messages; its called the Holy Ghost. most people interpret the bible wrong and as one who has in the past but then sought out this Holy Ghost have become enlightened to many Truths that are for “His sheep”. Am I saying that I am his sheep and most people are’nt, No, rather Jesus says that God loves us all and wishes “that none were lost” but if we refuse to avoid/neglect/ignore his will than condemnation is inevitable because you choose not to be his sheep.The more you choose to be his sheep and follow and study and seek his ways the more like his sheep you become. You see its your choice, God has given us a choice from the begining! if you truly seek Gods will read not the bible-study it…diligently.AND not only study diligently but what we understand not, seek gods answers/revelations….he has Not let me down on all my answers thus far. AMEN

By: mike lipko

mike lipko — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:50:14 +0000

you are deadwrong and have miss represented the bible, and missquoted it-this is what you wrote “Jesus, from what the Bible says, states clearly we are not to judge, for judgment is reserved for God only.” the bible doesnt anywhere in it read we are not to judge. the bible does read that WE ARE TO JUDGE ! In John 7:24, Jesus said “Do not judge according to appearance (this is the sick way man judges), but judge with righteous judgment( this is Gods judgement”).John5:30 “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” read throughout the prophets and moses-they judged man but through righteous judgement-look to solomon for judement or his dad David;no pacifists there!!! the preachers and pastors and followers of them and also those who have not followed the church but their own way have perverted the TRUTH of GOD by saying we are NOT to judge. If we never judge and let all pedifiles,rapists,murderers etc. go and just say oh, well God will deal with it, its not my place, is PURE foolishness and one of the worst forms of evil. but this has been satans will, to decieve you and I so we let it all happen to ourselves and others:without doing Gods will.God and Jesus both commanded that we are to do his will and teach others and we will be great in the kingdom of heaven but not to do and to teach false doctrines is least in Gods eyes! look Jesus said these things of judgement because man has a way of making so many false rules,hypocritical truths, bogus laws to gain power and decieve…this is why we must seek God diligently , believe in his perfectly designed laws and through him and only through him we can judge!!! AMEN and I love you

By: mike lipko

mike lipko — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:21:37 +0000

NO you can not be homosexual and truly believe in the bible nor the scriptures within. why? because Jesus the son of God the creator of both the spiritual world (unseen) and the physical (seen) says time and again throughout the Bible that if one does not do his will it is because he does not believe in his will. John14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Pharisees, sadducees for example did not the will of God because they sought the desire of man and the glory of man, also the lusts of the physical world. Because they sought after the physical;money, fame,power they knew not who Jesus was,they were blind to see what was Truly Righteous because of their own delusionary idea of Truth. John14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. you can say that you believe in a snippit here or there in the Bible that fits your idealogy of Truth,or you can say you believe in most or all of it:but DOING Gods will is the True test that God seeks. God he wants us to dig a little deeper;take the beliefs you have and match them up with his Truths of God! You’ll see your ideology does’nt compare to Gods FACTS//LAWS, you are a hypocrite through-an-through and you cant even see it. This is what Repentance is all about, men who have a glimmer of Truth about God and the TRUE belief in HIM know that we cant even barely talk to God knowing how disgusting we are in comparison!! Our selective choices as a human race of what is good or “agreeable” are our man-made beliefs and Gods beliefs are TRUTH (they cant change/they will exist for all time)and ’cause we are choosing most if not all the time oppositions to Gods will our beliefs collide!! Matthew10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (a sword of Truth that conflicts with mans ideologies.) this sword will cut you up,has cut you down and will continue to destroy you, because its purpose is to slice through all LIES. The day you humble yourself and mean it and realise God is supreme and you are infantile and seek Gods truth and weed out your ugly false truths DAILY is the day you will begin to truly awaken and live a rich and rewading life full of abundance! just as God said we are not to eat human flesh(cannibalism) we are not to have same sex relations nor relations with beasts!!WHY? cause it wasnt, isnt and never will be his plan. come on people its not rocket science here!God gave us reason,creativeness and free will above all the creatures of the Earth. And we still dumb ourselves down with the barbaricness of a simple dog. draw nigh to him and he will to you. Ihad Faith in this thought(drawing nigh) and it radically alter my life and my course for the better. amen

By: Stan Peel

Stan Peel — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:11:34 +0000

How we stumble when we try to rationalize a moral code.

There is only One who will judge all things in the end.

My basis for saying this may be found in Pro 15:2 & Rom 1:22.

Chew on that for a season.

By: Samantha

Samantha — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:34:34 +0000

Tom this first part is for you! :
Do you believe that it was only the sin of homosexuality that the city of Sodom was eliminated? If so, I’m curious to know what you think about the allowance of the daughters to be raped in the place of the visitors…
And yes, I also believe that praying is key to understanding truth, but I would also like to ask: what exactly does one do when one prays?
Do we only ask for help and let the situation stand as it is, or do we examine the subject at hand, or do we do both?

I would also like to state that the Bible and its Scriptures are extremely philosophical. The message that Jesus asks us to follow is something that stems from beautiful wisdom — it stems from the message of the Old Testament and blossomed into the message Jesus gave us –and I believe that Jesus was the Greatest Philosopher that walked this Earth. The Old Testament (Job and the Proverbs for example) speak extremely highly of the search for Wisdom, and state that through Wisdom one will become closer to God for Wisdom is Godly. Not only that, but the greatest Biblical scholars are often referred to as Christian Philosophers — one being Augustine of Hippo. If we don’t sit and consider openly and without judgment what the Bible has to offer us, then how do we know we are correct? Church denominations stem from people arguing that they have the best understanding of the Bible and from there, people do not actually study the Bible for all it’s worth.
Here’s a controversial question that a religious leader posed: Is the Bible God or is God God? A brilliant question with an answer that makes people huffy.
Isn’t the answer that God is God, and the Bible is not God? Yes, the Bible is the message OF God, but the Bible is NOT God. There is a difference, and the difference is great. Does this mean we discard it? Heck no! It means that we should respect it and try to live up to the standards that God prescribes us each individually, but we don’t judge people according to it. Jesus, from what the Bible says, states clearly we are not to judge, for judgment is reserved for God only.
Only God can judge, and if the Bible is God’s Words, than that’s God judging people, not people judging other people. So why and how can we, assume we have the right to judge people based on what is God’s understanding?

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:53:43 +0000

Sodom and Gomorah was evacuated by the righteous because of the sin of homosexuality. No righteous man in any scripture has ever practiced homosexuality. Many seem to explain things philosophically. The bible or any other scripture must be prayed about to find the truthfulness thereof. The same can be done regarding this subject.