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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2008/02/15/does-mormonism-cover-truths-from-all-religions/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seventyx7, are you still here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seventyx7, are you still here?</p>
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		<title>By: ZeeZrom</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2008/02/15/does-mormonism-cover-truths-from-all-religions/#comment-195</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if you like film references, there&#039;s also &quot;The God Who Wasn&#039;t There&quot;.  That one you can&#039;t watch online though, you&#039;d have to buy it.  Their website is www.thegodmovie.com
It has some similar info to the first 1/2 hour of &quot;Zeitgeist&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you like film references, there&#8217;s also &#8220;The God Who Wasn&#8217;t There&#8221;.  That one you can&#8217;t watch online though, you&#8217;d have to buy it.  Their website is <a href="http://www.thegodmovie.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegodmovie.com</a><br />
It has some similar info to the first 1/2 hour of &#8220;Zeitgeist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ZeeZrom</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2008/02/15/does-mormonism-cover-truths-from-all-religions/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZeeZrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron, I&#039;ll try to locate some good sources, but for fun you may want to check out the film &quot;Zeitgeist&quot;.  It offers a little taste of some of the arguments against Jesus.  I think the website is  simply zeitgeist.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I&#8217;ll try to locate some good sources, but for fun you may want to check out the film &#8220;Zeitgeist&#8221;.  It offers a little taste of some of the arguments against Jesus.  I think the website is  simply zeitgeist.com</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2008/02/15/does-mormonism-cover-truths-from-all-religions/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me clarify.  I doubt Muslims will be attracted to your josephlied.com website, even if they have problems with Islam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify.  I doubt Muslims will be attracted to your josephlied.com website, even if they have problems with Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://graceforgrace.com/2008/02/15/does-mormonism-cover-truths-from-all-religions/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seventyx7, you selectively answer questions.  Let me paste the questions you failed to answer, again.

From me:

&lt;i&gt; (1)  What do you have to say about Jihad? Is Jihad worse than mormonism, or better? (We’re impressed that you know your bible, but please, (2) enough of the scripture quoting–what do YOU think?)
&lt;/i&gt;

From MH:

&lt;i&gt;
(3)  Why don’t you go after Islam who kills people in the name of Allah, or the Catholic Church who did the same with the Crusades? That seems like a more reasonable stance to me. Both of them are much larger in population–(4) is the mormon church a much larger threat? (5)  Are you scared it will outgrow them both?&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, this leads to the question, why do you have a site called Josephlied.com, and not one called Muhammedlied.com?  This is the bigotry, that I am speaking.  If you were &quot;equal opportunity&quot;, you should go after them too, but you&#039;re only going after Mormons.  I doubt Muslims will be attracted to your website, even if they have problems with Islam.  

Technically they believe in Christ, but not enough to think the Bible is worth reading, so your scripture quoting is falling on deaf ears with them.  (6)  What is YOUR rational for setting up the website?  (Hint--I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a scripture that says &quot;God told Seventyx7 to set up a josephlied.com website.  And thus it came to pass.&quot;  (Seventyx7 1:1-2), so your answer should come from non-Biblical sources.)

Ok, I numbered them 1-6 this time, so you don&#039;t loose track of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seventyx7, you selectively answer questions.  Let me paste the questions you failed to answer, again.</p>
<p>From me:</p>
<p><i> (1)  What do you have to say about Jihad? Is Jihad worse than mormonism, or better? (We’re impressed that you know your bible, but please, (2) enough of the scripture quoting–what do YOU think?)<br />
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<p>From MH:</p>
<p><i><br />
(3)  Why don’t you go after Islam who kills people in the name of Allah, or the Catholic Church who did the same with the Crusades? That seems like a more reasonable stance to me. Both of them are much larger in population–(4) is the mormon church a much larger threat? (5)  Are you scared it will outgrow them both?</i></p>
<p>Of course, this leads to the question, why do you have a site called Josephlied.com, and not one called Muhammedlied.com?  This is the bigotry, that I am speaking.  If you were &#8220;equal opportunity&#8221;, you should go after them too, but you&#8217;re only going after Mormons.  I doubt Muslims will be attracted to your website, even if they have problems with Islam.  </p>
<p>Technically they believe in Christ, but not enough to think the Bible is worth reading, so your scripture quoting is falling on deaf ears with them.  (6)  What is YOUR rational for setting up the website?  (Hint&#8211;I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a scripture that says &#8220;God told Seventyx7 to set up a josephlied.com website.  And thus it came to pass.&#8221;  (Seventyx7 1:1-2), so your answer should come from non-Biblical sources.)</p>
<p>Ok, I numbered them 1-6 this time, so you don&#8217;t loose track of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ama49</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zeezrom,

Good to hear from you again my German friend!

What historic documents have you researched that lead you to this conclusion?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeezrom,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again my German friend!</p>
<p>What historic documents have you researched that lead you to this conclusion?</p>
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		<title>By: ama49</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ama49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seventy,

You nailed it!  It is only through the power of the Holy Spirit that you can know something is true.  Through the power of the Holy Ghost you can know the truth of all things (Moroni 10: 4).

Now the question is how do you feel the spirit and recognize it is from God?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seventy,</p>
<p>You nailed it!  It is only through the power of the Holy Spirit that you can know something is true.  Through the power of the Holy Ghost you can know the truth of all things (Moroni 10: 4).</p>
<p>Now the question is how do you feel the spirit and recognize it is from God?</p>
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		<title>By: seventyx7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seventyx7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rick,

I was not ignoring your question,  I answered MH questions with scripture and I will answer your question now. I in no way am a Mormon hater. I have two very good friends who are Mormon. and we openly talk about our faiths. Here is a scripture that applies to all people,  no matter what creed:

&quot;THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS,
THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS;
THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD,
THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.”
“THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE,
WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,”
“THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”;
 “WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”;
“THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN.”
“THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.” 
Roman 3:10-18

WE are all sinners. Christian, Mormon, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, New-ager.....

&quot;for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God&quot;
romans 3:23]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>I was not ignoring your question,  I answered MH questions with scripture and I will answer your question now. I in no way am a Mormon hater. I have two very good friends who are Mormon. and we openly talk about our faiths. Here is a scripture that applies to all people,  no matter what creed:</p>
<p>&#8220;THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;<br />
THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS,<br />
THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;<br />
ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS;<br />
THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD,<br />
THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.”<br />
“THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE,<br />
WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,”<br />
“THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”;<br />
 “WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”;<br />
“THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,<br />
DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,<br />
AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN.”<br />
“THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.”<br />
Roman 3:10-18</p>
<p>WE are all sinners. Christian, Mormon, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, New-ager&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God&#8221;<br />
romans 3:23</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seventyx7,

I find it really interesting that you ignore my and Mormon Heretic&#039;s questions.  Are they just too hard to answer because you can&#039;t quote a scripture to state why you are a Mormon bigot?

Sure, you may say that Mormons are going to Hell, and you want to rescue them.  But it wasn&#039;t Mormons who flew planes into the World Trade Center, or started the Crusades.  Can you try to engage in the conversation, or are you simply programmed to mis-quote scripture?

What do you have to say about Jihad?  Is Jihad worse than mormonism, or better?  (We&#039;re impressed that you know your bible, but please, enough of the scripture quoting--what do YOU think?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seventyx7,</p>
<p>I find it really interesting that you ignore my and Mormon Heretic&#8217;s questions.  Are they just too hard to answer because you can&#8217;t quote a scripture to state why you are a Mormon bigot?</p>
<p>Sure, you may say that Mormons are going to Hell, and you want to rescue them.  But it wasn&#8217;t Mormons who flew planes into the World Trade Center, or started the Crusades.  Can you try to engage in the conversation, or are you simply programmed to mis-quote scripture?</p>
<p>What do you have to say about Jihad?  Is Jihad worse than mormonism, or better?  (We&#8217;re impressed that you know your bible, but please, enough of the scripture quoting&#8211;what do YOU think?)</p>
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		<title>By: seventyx7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seventyx7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grace,

I cannot prove the Bible to be true,  just as you can not prove that Mormonism is true to an athiest or anyone for that matter. The Holy Spirit is who stirs the hearts of those who have yet to believe. 

&quot;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.&quot;
1 Cor 2:10

I do know what the Scriptures tell us about those who do not believe in Go:

&quot;The fool has said in his heart, &#039;There is no God.&#039; &quot; Psalm 14:1a

&quot;For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,  and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.  For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.&quot; Romans 1:18-32


But if I were trying to prove God to an athiest, I would first point to nature.

&quot;The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.There is no speech, nor are there words;
Their voice is not heard. &quot; Psalm 19:1-3

&quot;For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.&quot; Romans 1:20


In His Truth-
seventyx7]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace,</p>
<p>I cannot prove the Bible to be true,  just as you can not prove that Mormonism is true to an athiest or anyone for that matter. The Holy Spirit is who stirs the hearts of those who have yet to believe. </p>
<p>&#8220;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.&#8221;<br />
1 Cor 2:10</p>
<p>I do know what the Scriptures tell us about those who do not believe in Go:</p>
<p>&#8220;The fool has said in his heart, &#8216;There is no God.&#8217; &#8221; Psalm 14:1a</p>
<p>&#8220;For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,  and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.<br />
 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.  For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.<br />
 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.<br />
And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.&#8221; Romans 1:18-32</p>
<p>But if I were trying to prove God to an athiest, I would first point to nature.</p>
<p>&#8220;The heavens are telling of the glory of God;<br />
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.There is no speech, nor are there words;<br />
Their voice is not heard. &#8221; Psalm 19:1-3</p>
<p>&#8220;For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.&#8221; Romans 1:20</p>
<p>In His Truth-<br />
seventyx7</p>
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